Calpreps does have rankings, but.......

I'm learning many new things tonight. This great thread is from socalhoops.com:

If you go directly to the calpreps website, you need to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page and find the link that says other sports (since the website is in full football mode).

It will take you to the following site:
http://calpreps.com/freemanratings.htm

or you can just go directly to that address above.

On that site, click on the 2008-2009 Girls Basketball National link (it also still has the rankings up from last year under that season, so choose the correct season).

Once you get to that page, you can choose a variety of things to look at, state rankings, section rankings, divisional rankings, etc. compare leagues, compare divisions.

Then, another post was made by someone calling themselves calpreps.com:

Calpreps.com, only as good as the information that people give it. Many scores of games have yet to be reported and like I said earlier I did not notice very many Friday or Saturday results in the rankings, so maybe from Thursday. If a team has not played 3 games, it would be a combination of their preseason ranking and first couple of games. Once you get to 3 games it is based on the season at hand.

Very early so a lot of movement still to be expected as things sort themselves out, but you may notice the computer has already dropped Narbonne out of the top 10 in the City Section compared to the preseason rankings. Los Osos dropped from a preseason #4 in Div IAA to #15. Ventura dropped from a preseason #1 in Div IA to #15.

Here is the list:

Top 25 in State (before Poly beat Sacred Heart, I think it was last updated after Thursday's games)

Rank School State League Division Rating Schedule Strength
1 Cajon (San Bernardino, CA) Southern San Andreas 1AA 52.6 36
2 Brea Olinda (Brea, CA) Southern Century 2AA 50 38
3 Poly (Long Beach, CA) Southern Moore 1AA 47.4 26.9
4 Sacred Heart Cathedral (San Francisco, CA) Central Coast West Catholic 3 46.2 25.3
5 Hanford (CA) Central West Yosemite 2 45.8 26.3
6 Carondelet (Concord, CA) North Coast East Bay 2 43.6 28.3
7 Inglewood (CA) Southern Ocean 3A 42.1 24.9
8 St. Mary's (Stockton, CA) Sac-Joaquin Tri-City 3 40.8 23.4
9 Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) Southern Trinity 2A 40.7 11.8
10 Troy (Fullerton, CA) Southern Freeway 1AA 40.3 27.2
11 Foothill (Santa Ana, CA) Southern Sea View 3A 38.9 11.9
12 Colony (Ontario, CA) Southern Mt. Baldy 1A 38.4 17
13 Clovis West (Fresno, CA) Central Tri-Rivers 1 37.8 24.5
14 St. Ignatius (San Francisco, CA) Central Coast West Catholic 3 37.6 21.3
15 Eastlake (Chula Vista, CA) San Diego Mesa 1 37 34.2
16 Santa Margarita (Rancho Santa Margarita, CA) Southern Trinity 3AA 36.3 0.1
17 St. Paul (Santa Fe Springs, CA) Southern Del Rey 4A 35 33.4
18 Muir (Pasadena, CA) Southern Pacific 3A 34.9 28.5
19 Santa Monica (CA) Southern Ocean 1A 34 21.5
20 Etiwanda (CA) Southern Baseline 1AA 33.8 15.8
21 Mitty (San Jose, CA) Central Coast West Catholic 2 33.6 35.9
22 Edison (Huntington Beach, CA) Southern Sunset 2AA 33.6 4.6
23 Millikan (Long Beach, CA) Southern Moore 1AA 33.2 25.4
24 Marlborough (Los Angeles, CA) Southern Sunshine 3AA 32.9 26.5
25 Summit (Fontana, CA) Southern Sunkist 2A 32.7 32.2

Top Division in the State
Southern Section, Division IAA

Top League in the State
West Catholic (of the Central Coast League)
Sacred Heart Cathedral
St. Ignatius
Archbishop Mitty
Valley Christian
Presentation
Notre Dame
St. Francis

LA City Section Top 10
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Chatsworth (CA) West Valley 30.9 14.9
2 View Park Prep (Los Angeles, CA) Coliseum 28.4 19
3 Washington (Los Angeles, CA) Marine 19.2 15.5
4 Fairfax (Los Angeles, CA) Western 18.8 16.2
5 El Camino Real (Woodland Hills, CA) West Valley 16.3 5.5
6 Taft (Woodland Hills, CA) West Valley 15.2 15.1
7 LACES (Los Angeles, CA) Western 14.9 19.3
8 Wilson (Los Angeles, CA) Northern 14.8 0.1
9 Carson (CA) Marine 12.1 6
10 Granada Hills (CA) West Valley 11.5 -6.3

Top Leagues in LA City Section
1. West Valley
2. Western
3. Eastern

Top 10 San Diego Section
Rank School League Division Rating Schedule Strength
1 Eastlake (Chula Vista, CA) Mesa 1 37 34.2
2 Bishop's (La Jolla, CA) Coastal - South 4 31.6 8.2
3 Mater Dei (Chula Vista, CA) Mesa 4 31.4 17.1
4 La Jolla Country Day (La Jolla, CA) Coastal - South 4 29.9 23.1
5 Mount Miguel (Spring Valley, CA) Grossmont - South 2 28.4 5.2
6 Poway (CA) Palomar 1 26.8 4.7
7 West Hills (Santee, CA) Grossmont - North 2 20.6 -3.2
8 Cathedral (San Diego, CA) Western 3 16.9 10.8
9 Our Lady of Peace (San Diego, CA) Western 3 13.6 -0.4
10 Westview (San Diego, CA) Valley 2 13.4 1.9

Top leagues in San Diego Section
1. Coastal - South
2. Grossmont - North
3. Mesa

Top leagues in the Southern Section
1. Trinity
2. Ocean
3. Century
4. Sea View
5. Moore
6. Del Rey
7. Big 8
8. Southwestern
9. Olympic
10. Baseline

Division IAA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Cajon (San Bernardino, CA) San Andreas 52.6 36
2 Poly (Long Beach, CA) Moore 47.4 26.9
3 Troy (Fullerton, CA) Freeway 40.3 27.2
4 Etiwanda (CA) Baseline 33.8 15.8
5 Millikan (Long Beach, CA) Moore 33.2 25.4
6 Santiago (Corona, CA) Big 8 28.7 24.5
7 Lynwood (CA) San Gabriel Valley 28.4 0.1
8 Knight (Palmdale, CA) Golden 26.6 22.5
9 Miller (Fontana, CA) Citrus Belt 25.4 0.1
10 Perris (CA) Sunbelt 25 27.8
11 San Clemente (CA) South Coast 24.7 17.5
12 Vista Murrieta (Murrieta, CA) Southwestern 21.3 23.8
13 Pacifica (Oxnard, CA) Pacific View 15.7 6.9
14 Jordan (Long Beach, CA) Moore 15 9.2
15 Los Osos (Rancho Cucamonga, CA) Baseline 14.6 29
16 Cabrillo (Long Beach, CA) Moore 14.5 0.1

Division IA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Colony (Ontario, CA) Mt. Baldy 38.4 17
2 Santa Monica (CA) Ocean 34 21.5
3 Canyon Springs (Moreno Valley, CA) Inland Valley 30.6 24.4
4 Chaparral (Temecula, CA) Southwestern 25 3.1
5 Marina (Huntington Beach, CA) Sunset 23 14.9
6 Rancho Cucamonga (CA) Baseline 22.9 9.1
7 Ayala (Chino Hills, CA) Sierra 22.2 12.4
8 Chino Hills (CA) Sierra 21.4 -2.5
9 Great Oak (Temecula, CA) Southwestern 20.2 17.2
10 Mission Viejo (CA) South Coast 18.9 11.7
11 King (Riverside, CA) Big 8 18.5 15.8
12 Poly (Riverside, CA) Big 8 17.9 17.2
13 Esperanza (Anaheim, CA) Sunset 17.8 20.5
14 Murrieta Valley (Murrieta, CA) Southwestern 17.1 4.9
15 Ventura (CA) Channel 16.9 11.5
16 North (Riverside, CA) Big 8 16.2 0.1

Division IIAA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Brea Olinda (Brea, CA) Century 50 38
2 Edison (Huntington Beach, CA) Sunset 33.6 4.6
3 Mira Costa (Manhattan Beach, CA) Bay 30.8 16.7
4 Vista del Lago (Moreno Valley, CA) Inland Valley 30.8 29.4
5 Huntington Beach (CA) Sea View 25.4 -1.6
6 Canyon (Canyon Country, CA) Foothill 24.7 22.2
7 Thousand Oaks (CA) Marmonte 24.6 13.7
8 Burbank (CA) Pacific 21.6 8.3
9 Buena (Ventura, CA) Channel 21.4 15.6
10 Valencia (CA) Foothill 21 4.6
11 Centennial (Corona, CA) Big 8 20.5 8.6
12 Royal (Simi Valley, CA) Marmonte 19.7 6.5
13 Valencia (Placentia, CA) Empire 19.6 12.5
14 El Dorado (Placentia, CA) Century 19.5 7.3
15 El Toro (Lake Forest, CA) Sea View 13.5 5.1
16 Sultana (Hesperia, CA) Mojave River 13.2 -1.1

Division IIA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) Trinity 40.7 11.8
2 Summit (Fontana, CA) Sunkist 32.7 32.2
3 Bishop Amat (La Puente, CA) Del Rey 31.5 1.2
4 Norco (CA) Big 8 28.5 14.3
5 Villa Park (CA) Century 24.7 12.6
6 Laguna Hills (CA) Pacific Coast 24.7 16.6
7 Newbury Park (CA) Marmonte 23.7 3.2
8 Rio Mesa (Oxnard, CA) Pacific View 22.8 7.9
9 Beverly Hills (CA) Ocean 22.6 16.3
10 Don Lugo (Chino, CA) Mt. Baldy 14.6 3.9
11 South (Torrance, CA) Pioneer 14 17.1
12 Saugus (CA) Foothill 12.3 13
13 Keppel (Alhambra, CA) Almont 11.9 22.5
14 Jurupa Valley (Mira Loma, CA) Sunkist 9.4 -8.1
15 Cypress (CA) Empire 9.1 -0.9
16 Alta Loma (CA) Baseline 8.3 -1.9

Division IIIAA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Santa Margarita (Rancho Santa Margarita, CA) Trinity 36.3 0.1
2 Marlborough (Los Angeles, CA) Sunshine 32.9 26.5
3 Woodbridge (Irvine, CA) Sea View 31.3 6.8
4 Arroyo Grande (CA) Pac-7 22.3 -1.5
5 Northwood (Irvine, CA) Sea View 20.8 6.8
6 Agoura (CA) Marmonte 20.4 2
7 Magnolia (Anaheim, CA) Orange 20.1 32.4
8 Canyon (Anaheim, CA) Century 17.3 9.9
9 Arlington (Riverside, CA) Inland Valley 17 0
10 Diamond Ranch (Pomona, CA) Miramonte 16 1.8
11 Fullerton (CA) Freeway 14.7 11.4
12 Culver City (CA) Ocean 12.4 11.7
13 San Bernardino (CA) San Andreas 11.8 4.2
14 North (Torrance, CA) Pioneer 11 11.4
15 Torrance (CA) Pioneer 10.4 17
16 El Modena (Orange, CA) Century 7.5 2

Division IIIA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Inglewood (CA) Ocean 42.1 24.9
2 Foothill (Santa Ana, CA) Sea View 38.9 11.9
3 Muir (Pasadena, CA) Pacific 34.9 28.5
4 St. Mary's Academy (Inglewood, CA) Santa Cruz 23.5 23.6
5 Palos Verdes (Palos Verdes Estates, CA) Bay 19.9 23.1
6 Barstow (CA) Desert Sky 18.9 0.2
7 Sonora (La Habra, CA) Freeway 16.5 -0.6
8 Monrovia (CA) Rio Hondo 11.9 -6.4
9 Cerritos (CA) Suburban 10.7 2
10 Bonita (La Verne, CA) Miramonte 9.5 4.2
11 Temescal Canyon (Lake Elsinore, CA) Southwestern 7.6 -2
12 Bellflower (CA) Suburban 7.1 -6.4
13 Tustin (CA) Century 4.5 0.1
14 Irvine (CA) Pacific Coast 2.2 0.4
15 Heritage (Menifee, CA) Mountain Pass 2 -2.2
16 Temple City (CA) Rio Hondo 1.2 -5.8

Division IVAA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Bishop Montgomery (Torrance, CA) Del Rey 26.9 17.9
2 Lutheran (Orange, CA) Trinity 24.5 4.2
3 Atascadero (CA) Pac-7 24.4 2.6
4 Notre Dame (Sherman Oaks, CA) Mission 20.7 13.9
5 Rosary (Fullerton, CA) Trinity 18.1 8.1
6 Whittier Christian (La Habra, CA) Olympic 16 -0.3
7 Alemany (Mission Hills, CA) Mission 13.8 18.2
8 San Luis Obispo (CA) Pac-7 13.7 10.6
9 Yucca Valley (CA) De Anza 13.3 0
10 La Canada (CA) Rio Hondo 13.1 4.5
11 Centennial (Compton, CA) Pioneer 11.5 -1.6
12 Calabasas (CA) Marmonte 8.5 -3
13 Northview (Covina, CA) Valle Vista 3 3.2
14 Corona del Mar (Newport Beach, CA) Pacific Coast 2.7 -17.7
15 Citrus Hill (Perris, CA) Mountain Pass 2.6 4
16 South Pasadena (CA) Rio Hondo 2.4 -2.1

Division IVA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 St. Paul (Santa Fe Springs, CA) Del Rey 35 33.4
2 Pacific Hills (Los Angeles, CA) Olympic 30.4 30
3 Harvard-Westlake (North Hollywood, CA) Mission 28.9 21.7
4 Oaks Christian (Westlake Village, CA) Tri-Valley 20.5 10.3
5 JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA) Trinity 17.6 9.6
6 Lawndale (CA) Pioneer 15.1 10.8
7 Windward (Los Angeles, CA) Olympic 13.3 21.1
8 Fillmore (CA) Tri-Valley 10.3 -10.8
9 Twentynine Palms (CA) De Anza 8.3 1.1
10 Morro Bay (CA) Los Padres 6.5 2.9
11 Village Christian (Sun Valley, CA) Alpha 3.9 -14.1
12 Notre Dame Academy (Los Angeles, CA) Sunshine 2.1 3
13 Chaminade (West Hills, CA) Mission 1.5 7.3
14 Marymount (Los Angeles, CA) Sunshine 0.6 -7.6
15 Los Angeles Baptist (North Hills, CA) Delphic 0.4 -8.2
16 Blair (Pasadena, CA) Rio Hondo -0.2 2.4

Division VAA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 St. Joseph (Santa Maria, CA) Los Padres 30.8 8.9
2 Serra (Gardena, CA) Del Rey 18.4 15
3 Notre Dame (Riverside, CA) Mountain Pass 6.2 -4.2
4 Cantwell-Sacred Heart (Montebello, CA) Camino Real 5.9 3.5
5 St. Monica (Santa Monica, CA) Camino Real 5.5 -0.3
6 Flintridge Prep (La Canada, CA) Prep 5.2 -0.8
7 Valley Christian (Cerritos, CA) Olympic 3 0.1
8 St. Bonaventure (Ventura, CA) Tri-Valley 1.7 -1.6
9 La Salle (Pasadena, CA) Camino Real 1.5 0
10 Campbell Hall (North Hollywood, CA) Alpha -1.6 -17
11 Mary Star of the Sea (San Pedro, CA) Camino Real -2.6 -8.3
12 Calvary Chapel (Santa Ana, CA) Orange Coast -4.6 0.1
13 Calvary Murrieta (Murrieta, CA) Big Sky -5.3 -6.9
14 Providence (Burbank, CA) Liberty -6 -14.9
15 Sage Hill (Newport Beach, CA) Academy -6.1 -17.4
16 Fairmont Prep (Anaheim, CA) San Joaquin -6.6 -16.6

Division VA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Montclair Prep (Van Nuys, CA) Olympic 32.4 15.7
2 Bellarmine-Jefferson (Burbank, CA) Santa Cruz 32.1 24.5
3 Chadwick (Palos Verdes Peninsula, CA) Prep 12.9 5.4
4 Santa Clara (Oxnard, CA) Frontier 8.7 -4.9
5 St. Anthony (Long Beach, CA) Santa Cruz 5.6 6.4
6 Rancho Alamitos (Garden Grove, CA) Garden Grove -2.2 -19.9
7 Poly (Pasadena, CA) Prep -3.3 -11.2
8 California City (CA) Freelance -4.6 0.1
9 Rolling Hills Prep (San Pedro, CA) Harbor -4.6 0.1
10 Buckley (Sherman Oaks, CA) Liberty -4.6 -17.3
11 Aquinas (San Bernardino, CA) Christian -7.8 -17.5
12 Holy Martyrs Armenian (Encino, CA) Liberty -10.6 0.1
13 Bishop Diego (Santa Barbara, CA) Frontier -10.7 -15.2
14 Desert (Edwards AFB, CA) High Desert -10.9 0.1
15 Brethren Christian (Huntington Beach, CA) Academy -12 -10.3
16 St. Margaret's (San Juan Capistrano, CA) Academy -12 -27.8

Division VIAA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Sierra Canyon (Chatsworth, CA) Delphic 10 -5.9
2 Hesperia Christian (Hesperia, CA) Agape -3.3 -15.3
3 Riverside Prep (Oro Grande, CA) Freelance -4.6 0.1
4 Le Lycee (Los Angeles, CA) Freelance -4.6 0.1
5 California Military Institute (Perris, CA) Majestic -4.6 0.1
6 AGBU (Pasadena, CA) Freelance -7.7 -33.5
7 Liberty Christian (Huntington Beach, CA) San Joaquin -7.8 0.1
8 Saddleback Valley Christian (San Juan Capistrano, CA) San Joaquin -10.1 -38
9 Rio Hondo Prep (Arcadia, CA) Prep -13.9 -19.5
10 Upland Christian (Upland, CA) Arrowhead -16.9 -13.4
11 Calvary Chapel (Moreno Valley, CA) Victory -17.1 0.1
12 Crean Lutheran South (Irvine, CA) Freelance -17.5 -26.8
13 Hillcrest Christian (Granada Hills, CA) Heritage -18 -15
14 AGBU (Canoga Park, CA) Westside -18.4 0.1
15 Ribet Academy (Los Angeles, CA) Harbor -18.9 -30.4
16 Desert Christian (Bermuda Dunes, CA) Victory -18.9 -20.7

Division VIA
Rank School League Rating Schedule Strength
1 Summit View (Valley Glen, CA) Mulholland -4.6 0.1
2 Ojai Valley (Ojai, CA) Condor -4.6 0.1
3 Westmark (Encino, CA) Freelance -4.6 0.1
4 Vistamar (El Segundo, CA) Freelance -4.6 0.1
5 Public Safety Academy (San Bernardino, CA) Freelance -4.6 0.1
6 First Lutheran (Sylmar, CA) Omega -4.6 0.1
7 Packinghouse Christian Academy (Redlands, CA) Majestic -7.3 -27.1
8 South Bay Lutheran (Inglewood, CA) Freelance -12.8 0.1
9 Immanuel Christian (Ridgecrest, CA) Hi-Lo -20.6 -28.8
10 Avalon (CA) San Joaquin -28.6 0.1
11 Price (Los Angeles, CA) Harbor -30.8 -8.8
12 Pacifica Christian (Santa Monica, CA) Mulholland -31.2 0.1
13 Bloomington Christian (Bloomington, CA) Victory -32.2 0.1
14 Tarbut V'torah (Irvine, CA) Express -32.3 -32.6
15 North County Christian (Atascadero, CA) Coast Valley -32.9 0.1
16 Desert Chapel (Palm Springs, CA) Victory -33.3 0.1

So if the info is based on team records, and the records are based on what the coaches report to maxpreps.com (as the next post says), then I guess we're back to square one. In other words, I'll get an idea where teams are at, and I'll go see them for myself.

My next step is to get a Southern Section schedule of games, which is harder to do as they don't have a link online.